Comments on: Michael Wills: “Courteous & mutually respectful dialogue” (#CMRD: was “It’s time to Move Beyond Rhetoric” #IMBR) http://idealgovernment.com/2009/12/michael-wills-its-time-to-move-beyond-rhetoric-imbr/ What do we want from Internet-age government? Wouldn't it be better if... Sat, 04 Feb 2012 10:03:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Interesting elsewhere – 14 December 2009 to 16 December 2009 | Public Strategist http://idealgovernment.com/2009/12/michael-wills-its-time-to-move-beyond-rhetoric-imbr/comment-page-1/#comment-3947 Interesting elsewhere – 14 December 2009 to 16 December 2009 | Public Strategist Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:03:18 +0000 http://idealgovernment.com/?p=1932#comment-3947 [...] Ideal Government » Blog Archive » Michael Wills: “It’s time to Move Beyond Rhetoric” (IMBR) [...] [...] Ideal Government » Blog Archive » Michael Wills: “It’s time to Move Beyond Rhetoric” (IMBR) [...]

]]> By: guy herbert http://idealgovernment.com/2009/12/michael-wills-its-time-to-move-beyond-rhetoric-imbr/comment-page-1/#comment-3931 guy herbert Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:17:44 +0000 http://idealgovernment.com/?p=1932#comment-3931 "We’d be fine if the approach were sophisticated." I don't think we would, for all the reasons pointed out in the rest of your discussion. The database state is being designed to expand bureaucratic empires and increase the power of government. We should probably be glad of the crudity of execution, undermining as it does very sophisticated approach to manufacturing notional consent and overcoming objections. “We’d be fine if the approach were sophisticated.” I don’t think we would, for all the reasons pointed out in the rest of your discussion. The database state is being designed to expand bureaucratic empires and increase the power of government. We should probably be glad of the crudity of execution, undermining as it does very sophisticated approach to manufacturing notional consent and overcoming objections.

]]> By: Toby Stevens http://idealgovernment.com/2009/12/michael-wills-its-time-to-move-beyond-rhetoric-imbr/comment-page-1/#comment-3927 Toby Stevens Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:52:52 +0000 http://idealgovernment.com/?p=1932#comment-3927 Note that in the Aa article, the author refers to Barnardo's as having benefitted from ContactPoint. Then observe the Q&A after Mr Wills' speech. Guess which children's charity had planted someone to grovellingly applaud the effectiveness of the government's approach to consultation and the excellence of the ContactPoint system? Here's a hint: it begins with a B. He complains about lack transparency in discourse, then rigs the Q&A. What does that tell you? Note that in the Aa article, the author refers to Barnardo’s as having benefitted from ContactPoint. Then observe the Q&A after Mr Wills’ speech. Guess which children’s charity had planted someone to grovellingly applaud the effectiveness of the government’s approach to consultation and the excellence of the ContactPoint system? Here’s a hint: it begins with a B.

He complains about lack transparency in discourse, then rigs the Q&A. What does that tell you?

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