Comments on: Jenseits von Persönlichkeitsentfaltung http://idealgovernment.com/2008/03/jenseits_von_persoenlichkeitsentfaltung/ What do we want from Internet-age government? Wouldn't it be better if... Thu, 22 Mar 2012 14:23:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Ideal Gov administrator http://idealgovernment.com/2008/03/jenseits_von_persoenlichkeitsentfaltung/comment-page-1/#comment-2138 Ideal Gov administrator Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:25:34 +0000 http://jenseits_von_persoenlichkeitsentfaltung#comment-2138 Ian writes: <blockquote>One of our German DPhil students writes in response to your post: Are you interested in the concept of "Persoenlichkeitsentfaltung" and its relation to the "General Right to Personality" under Art. 1 (1) and Art. 2 (1) of the German Basic Law? This is in fact the rationale for constitutionally protecting, among other things, "informational self-determination" according to the German Federal Constitutional Court: our ability to develop a "personality" (not technically called an identity) by interacting and testing certain forms of behavior with other people, learning from their reactions, adapting behavior etc. The process is considered so important that the state is not allowed to interfere. Or is this rather a call to arms for more entertaining German compound words? Gutenachtschlaftallegutgruss</blockquote>Well, frankly, both. I do think the Germans are more securely on track in the legal and constitutional thinking than we are. But I do love the compound words; it's like pertinent art and Wibbies all rolled into one. So more of both please! Ian writes:
One of our German DPhil students writes in response to your post:

Are you interested in the concept of “Persoenlichkeitsentfaltung” and its relation to the “General Right to Personality” under Art. 1 (1) and Art. 2 (1) of the German Basic Law? This is in fact the rationale for constitutionally protecting, among other things, “informational
self-determination” according to the German Federal Constitutional Court: our ability to develop a “personality” (not technically called
an identity) by interacting and testing certain forms of behavior with other people, learning from their reactions, adapting behavior etc. The process is considered so important that the state is not allowed to interfere.

Or is this rather a call to arms for more entertaining German compound words?

Gutenachtschlaftallegutgruss

Well, frankly, both. I do think the Germans are more securely on track in the legal and constitutional thinking than we are. But I do love the compound words; it’s like pertinent art and Wibbies all rolled into one. So more of both please!

]]> By: Ideal Gov administrator http://idealgovernment.com/2008/03/jenseits_von_persoenlichkeitsentfaltung/comment-page-1/#comment-2135 Ideal Gov administrator Wed, 05 Mar 2008 03:42:44 +0000 http://jenseits_von_persoenlichkeitsentfaltung#comment-2135 "absoluter Schutz" feels great: absoute protection "Kernbereich" is a fantastic word, evoking for me th einner core of an atomic power station and Lebensgestaltung describes to me on ongoing process of organising life, not just a static set up. Yup, I can see from the press release on your blog that what we're trying to avoid at all costs are "Eingriffe in den absolut geschützten Kernbereich privater Lebensgestaltung." Cheers Ralf. Keep up the good work. Are you involved in EDRI? “absoluter Schutz” feels great: absoute protection
“Kernbereich” is a fantastic word, evoking for me th einner core of an atomic power station
and Lebensgestaltung describes to me on ongoing process of organising life, not just a static set up.

Yup, I can see from the press release on your blog that what we’re trying to avoid at all costs are “Eingriffe in den absolut geschützten Kernbereich privater Lebensgestaltung.” Cheers Ralf. Keep up the good work. Are you involved in EDRI?

]]> By: alex http://idealgovernment.com/2008/03/jenseits_von_persoenlichkeitsentfaltung/comment-page-1/#comment-2137 alex Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:45:01 +0000 http://jenseits_von_persoenlichkeitsentfaltung#comment-2137 Wilhelm Das ist drei words " Vorsprung durch Technik " Alex Wilhelm

Das ist drei words ” Vorsprung durch Technik ”

Alex

]]> By: Ralf Bendrath http://idealgovernment.com/2008/03/jenseits_von_persoenlichkeitsentfaltung/comment-page-1/#comment-2136 Ralf Bendrath Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:27:37 +0000 http://jenseits_von_persoenlichkeitsentfaltung#comment-2136 The German constitutional court has already defined this in 2004 as the right to the "absolute protection of the core area of the private conduct of life" ("absoluter Schutz des Kernbereichs privater Lebensgestaltung"). This core area cannot be overridden by the government. The <a href="http://bendrath.blogspot.com/2008/02/germany-new-basic-right-to-privacy-of.html">recent ruling on online searches</a> only made clear that this core area can nowadays be on a server outside our homes or even on our mobile phones. The German constitutional court has already defined this in 2004 as the right to the “absolute protection of the core area of the private conduct of life” (“absoluter Schutz des Kernbereichs privater Lebensgestaltung”). This core area cannot be overridden by the government.

The recent ruling on online searches only made clear that this core area can nowadays be on a server outside our homes or even on our mobile phones.

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