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	<title>Comments on: Four immediate thoughts about the catastrophic HMRC data loss</title>
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		<title>By: Wendy M Grossman</title>
		<link>http://idealgovernment.com/2007/11/four_immediate_thoughts_about_the_catastrophic_hmrc_data_loss/comment-page-1/#comment-1913</link>
		<dc:creator>Wendy M Grossman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 21:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couple of quotes I hope are germane from this week&#039;s net.wars (partly about this, partly about the many digital identity conferences in London this week):

&gt;&gt;The access limitations inherent in physical storage media must be painstakingly recreated in computer systems or they do not exist. The problem with security is it tends to be inconvenient.

With paper records, the more data you provide the more expensive and time-consuming it is. With computer records, the more data you provide the cheaper and quicker it is. The NAO&#039;s file of email relating to the incident (PDF) makes this clear. What the NAO wanted (so it could check that the right people got the right benefit payments): national insurance numbers, names, and benefit numbers. What it got: everything. If the discs hadn&#039;t gotten lost, we would never have known.&gt;&gt;

&gt;&gt;It is characteristic of our age that the favored solution is the one that creates the most data and the biggest privacy risk. No one in the cluster of organisations opposing the ID card - No2ID, Privacy International, Foundation for Information Policy Research, or Open Rights Group - wanted an incident like this week&#039;s to happen. But it is exactly what they have been warning about: large data stores carry large risks that are poorly understood, and it is not enough for politicians to wave their hands and say we can trust them. Information may want to be free, but data want to leak.&gt;&gt;

The rest is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pelicancrossing.net/netwars/2007/11/road_block.html&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couple of quotes I hope are germane from this week&#8217;s net.wars (partly about this, partly about the many digital identity conferences in London this week):</p>
<p>>>The access limitations inherent in physical storage media must be painstakingly recreated in computer systems or they do not exist. The problem with security is it tends to be inconvenient.</p>
<p>With paper records, the more data you provide the more expensive and time-consuming it is. With computer records, the more data you provide the cheaper and quicker it is. The NAO&#8217;s file of email relating to the incident (PDF) makes this clear. What the NAO wanted (so it could check that the right people got the right benefit payments): national insurance numbers, names, and benefit numbers. What it got: everything. If the discs hadn&#8217;t gotten lost, we would never have known.>></p>
<p>>>It is characteristic of our age that the favored solution is the one that creates the most data and the biggest privacy risk. No one in the cluster of organisations opposing the ID card &#8211; No2ID, Privacy International, Foundation for Information Policy Research, or Open Rights Group &#8211; wanted an incident like this week&#8217;s to happen. But it is exactly what they have been warning about: large data stores carry large risks that are poorly understood, and it is not enough for politicians to wave their hands and say we can trust them. Information may want to be free, but data want to leak.>></p>
<p>The rest is <a href="http://www.pelicancrossing.net/netwars/2007/11/road_block.html">here</a>.</p>
<p>wg</p>
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		<title>By: Iain Henderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iain Henderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, only by building tools on the side of the individual will we be able to change what is a fundamentally broken modus operandi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, only by building tools on the side of the individual will we be able to change what is a fundamentally broken modus operandi.</p>
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		<title>By: William Heath</title>
		<link>http://idealgovernment.com/2007/11/four_immediate_thoughts_about_the_catastrophic_hmrc_data_loss/comment-page-1/#comment-1915</link>
		<dc:creator>William Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never met Deepak Singh. I tried to meet Steve Lamy several times but he was always too busy. 

Former CIO Ian Watmore - an excellent communicator - listened intently to IdealGov insights and gave me further platforms to spread the ideas. But the work done under his tenure did not (I felt) reflect emerging Cluetrain/Web2.0/IdealGov insights about co-creation, quick wins, feedback and the foundation of trust. 

And I feel the present CIO John Suffolk, who is less of a natural communicator, is focussed more on the making the central CIO/CTO/delivery Councils and IT markets work better. There&#039;s plenty of scope for that - I&#039;m sure it&#039;s at least a full time job already. But for me it misses the bigger picture of educating upwards (ie what does the Board and Cabinet need to understand about the possibilities and responsibilities of e-enabled public services) and the wider principles of customer-driven change and how to treat people&#039;s data (which I think of as the &quot;what every CIO needs to understand about human dignity and rights&quot; agenda).

So if there is a big government IT culture change I STILL feel we&#039;re at the beginning of it, and not in the final stages. But this shameful episode may be a milestone. I just hope we derive the right lessons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never met Deepak Singh. I tried to meet Steve Lamy several times but he was always too busy. </p>
<p>Former CIO Ian Watmore &#8211; an excellent communicator &#8211; listened intently to IdealGov insights and gave me further platforms to spread the ideas. But the work done under his tenure did not (I felt) reflect emerging Cluetrain/Web2.0/IdealGov insights about co-creation, quick wins, feedback and the foundation of trust. </p>
<p>And I feel the present CIO John Suffolk, who is less of a natural communicator, is focussed more on the making the central CIO/CTO/delivery Councils and IT markets work better. There&#8217;s plenty of scope for that &#8211; I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s at least a full time job already. But for me it misses the bigger picture of educating upwards (ie what does the Board and Cabinet need to understand about the possibilities and responsibilities of e-enabled public services) and the wider principles of customer-driven change and how to treat people&#8217;s data (which I think of as the &#8220;what every CIO needs to understand about human dignity and rights&#8221; agenda).</p>
<p>So if there is a big government IT culture change I STILL feel we&#8217;re at the beginning of it, and not in the final stages. But this shameful episode may be a milestone. I just hope we derive the right lessons.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, the HMRC&#039;s CIO has been Deepak Singh since June 2006. Deepak took over from Steve Lamey when he was appointed Chief Operating Officer.

&quot;Deepak joined HMRC in June 2006 from T-Mobile where he was an Executive Vice President responsible for IT Strategy, Governance, Quality Management and Change Management.&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, the HMRC&#8217;s CIO has been Deepak Singh since June 2006. Deepak took over from Steve Lamey when he was appointed Chief Operating Officer.</p>
<p>&#8220;Deepak joined HMRC in June 2006 from T-Mobile where he was an Executive Vice President responsible for IT Strategy, Governance, Quality Management and Change Management.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/board/" rel="nofollow">http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/board/</a></p>
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