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	<title>Comments on: Good Advices, bad adwizes, and Tony McNulty</title>
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		<title>By: Andy Dulson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Dulson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2005 19:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Those who know far better than I say things are going in the right direction,&quot; he said.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Tony McNulty was also quoted saying something similar on the PM show on Radio 4 the other day. They then did an interview with a biometrics experts who has been advising the Home Affairs Select Committee. The quote I found most interesting was:

&lt;blockquote&gt;To be honest, I think that there’s a possibility that eventually we will conclude that [biometric technology] isn’t good enough, or the current systems we’re using are not good enough for a large scale public domain application such as an ID card.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t think that the interview is available on the BBC website any more, but I transcribed it on the day, and posted it here:

http://www.discorice.org/weblog/2005/05/25/well-that-didnt-take-very-long/

(Apologies for the self-link, and indeed for the state of the site at the other end.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Those who know far better than I say things are going in the right direction,&#8221; he said.</p></blockquote>
<p>Tony McNulty was also quoted saying something similar on the PM show on Radio 4 the other day. They then did an interview with a biometrics experts who has been advising the Home Affairs Select Committee. The quote I found most interesting was:</p>
<blockquote><p>To be honest, I think that there’s a possibility that eventually we will conclude that [biometric technology] isn’t good enough, or the current systems we’re using are not good enough for a large scale public domain application such as an ID card.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that the interview is available on the BBC website any more, but I transcribed it on the day, and posted it here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.discorice.org/weblog/2005/05/25/well-that-didnt-take-very-long/" rel="nofollow">http://www.discorice.org/weblog/2005/05/25/well-that-didnt-take-very-long/</a></p>
<p>(Apologies for the self-link, and indeed for the state of the site at the other end.)</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Wilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin Wilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2005 13:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Home Office position is interesting, and slightly confuses two points. 

1 - The whole point of biometrics is that it is discriminatory... in the sense that it is intended to &quot;discriminate&quot; between one individual and another. The *technology* is discriminatory, unambiguously but with no moral dimension.

2 - However, the other point of course is that the technology could enable discriminatory behaviour... and that&#039;s what is to be identified and guarded against. So, for instance, if a foreseeable consequence of adopting the technology is that n percent of disabled citizens are unable to register using any of the supported biometric methods, and that in turn results in a difference between their ability to access public services and the ability of other citizens to do the same - *that&#039;s* discriminatory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Home Office position is interesting, and slightly confuses two points. </p>
<p>1 &#8211; The whole point of biometrics is that it is discriminatory&#8230; in the sense that it is intended to &#8220;discriminate&#8221; between one individual and another. The *technology* is discriminatory, unambiguously but with no moral dimension.</p>
<p>2 &#8211; However, the other point of course is that the technology could enable discriminatory behaviour&#8230; and that&#8217;s what is to be identified and guarded against. So, for instance, if a foreseeable consequence of adopting the technology is that n percent of disabled citizens are unable to register using any of the supported biometric methods, and that in turn results in a difference between their ability to access public services and the ability of other citizens to do the same &#8211; *that&#8217;s* discriminatory.</p>
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